I bought the visors for wife who always uses a visor..........she has yet to use them. That said they are a solid piece and stay where you put them., no issues with them falling down. The instructions are not up to Polaris standards, and you will swear that they won't fit as described but they do. The description of where to cut the headliner is not very clear nor did mine have a mark on the inside of the headliner as described. All in all, a fairly easy install, just install the brackets and use those measurements to mark out your headliner.